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nonicpod
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16-Oct-07, 01:41 PM (AEST)
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"Staking Plans"
 
   Has anyone have any experience with Power Of Ten or Winforms Money Factory

Jimbo


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Staking Plans motueka1 16-Oct-07 1
     RE: Staking Plans quandialla44 16-Oct-07 2
         RE: Staking Plans sabu 16-Oct-07 3
             RE: Staking Plans motueka1 17-Oct-07 4
                 RE: Staking Plans BPak 19-Oct-07 6
                     RE: Staking Plans motueka1 19-Oct-07 8
  RE: Staking Plans just a mug 17-Oct-07 5
     RE: Staking Plans Michal 19-Oct-07 7
     RE: Staking Plans motueka1 19-Oct-07 9

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motueka1
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16-Oct-07, 08:12 PM (AEST)
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1. "RE: Staking Plans"
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   Hi There,
I have used both versions of Po10 and found them both to be too agressive for mine, no matter how conservative the parameters were set.I found the later version way too glitchy on my notebook...not sure why it gave drama but I wasnt the only person to experience this if this forum is anything to go by. The concept sounds great in theory and may suit your modus operandi better than mine.

For a lot less money you may like to consider the winform professional staking plan software. It suits me because it's not chasing losses and instead capitalises on winning runs. very basic but sound principle and doesnt go into a spin in losing streaks. You can read about this software in one of the winform books on sale. You dont have to buy the software,..you can apply it manually if you like, but for about $35 why would you?

I havent tried money factory or powerbet.

cheers
steve



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quandialla44
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16-Oct-07, 08:50 PM (AEST)
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2. "RE: Staking Plans"
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   Hi Jimbo,

I have Money Factory. If you reckon you can predict your winning and losing percentages then it is excellent software although it is not cheap. Parameters can be set conservatively but I'll quote you a paragraph taken from an old punting book - and it probably still holds true today: "Punters who are unable to resist staking plans are strongly advised to adopt one which involves increasing bets after winners rather than increasing bets after losers. Winning or losing sequences cannot be predicted."

The Winform Professional Staking Plan is excellent software, is cheap, easy to use and as Steve says, capitalises on winning runs. The PPFA Staker is also cheap and also capitalises on winning runs.

Regards,
Dave

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sabu
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16-Oct-07, 09:55 PM (AEST)
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3. "RE: Staking Plans"
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   Hi Jimbo.

I have purchased the professional plan and as stated above it is quite good. If you wanted to get the free version (quite easy to set up in excel) go to
http://www.horseracingaustralia.info/Professional%20Staking.html scroll right to the bottom and click on this .

To view a report on the Professional Staking Plan please CLICK HERE.

All the best.

Norm


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motueka1
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17-Oct-07, 07:30 PM (AEST)
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4. "RE: Staking Plans"
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   Hi Jimbo, Dave and Norm,
I see I was a bit out on price there..still a bargain when to compared to the other software mentioned here, and there was a deal on buying the book and the software together.

I will mention also that pro staking plan allows one to use the current bet amount for an entire days racing, or you can bet race to race and have fluctuating bet amounts, dependent on bank balance., whichever suits you best.

I personally like to bet a smaller percentage of bank than what the Pro software recommends in its default settings. It is easy enough to simply key in a lower strike rate in order to arrive at a more conservative percentage-of-bank betting units. Example a 21% strike rate in the software will auto set your betting unit to 2% units, whereas i would prefer to run that at 1%. By typing in "12%" as the strike rate, I can arrive at my preferred 1% of bank.

Being able to cut and paste your bet selector selections into PSP would be nice, and the above posted link to an excel version would enable this I imagine.

Stebbo's bet tracker can be set to basically do what PSP does..(you can set it to bet percentage of bank). You would just have to keep an eye on the bank balance to manually identify when it either doubles or halves. PSP does this automatically. With Stebbo's BT you can cut and paste your selections and save on typing.
cheers
steve


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BPak
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19-Oct-07, 07:44 AM (AEST)
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6. "RE: Staking Plans"
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   LAST
 
CUT AND PASTE

"Being able to cut and paste your bet selector selections into PSP would be nice, and the above posted link to an excel version would enable this I imagine." ...

The Edit Box in Windows software allows for Cut and Paste.

To Copy Bet Selector Selections into PSP...
Copy the Bet Selector Selection
Right Click in the Horse Edit Box of PSP and a Menu is displayed.
Select Paste and the contents of the Clipboard will be copied into the edit box.


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motueka1
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19-Oct-07, 08:40 PM (AEST)
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8. "RE: Staking Plans"
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   Hi Bpak,
Thanks! I was hoping someone would come in and tell me that..You have made my day.
Cheers
steve


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just a mug
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17-Oct-07, 08:19 PM (AEST)
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5. "RE: Staking Plans"
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   I have used both Winforms Money Factory and Professional Staking Plan and found Money Factory very frustrating with losing banks and having small amounts on winners and larger amounts on losers which after time may be reversed but it was so annoying I gave it away. You also needed to be there to keep placing bets as each result came up. Professional Staking Plan you can place all bets at the start of the day although not working as well as sitting there is ok. Your selection system has to be pretty ordinary to go broke with the Professional Staking Plan also, I have used it for the last 12 months with success.
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Michal
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19-Oct-07, 07:35 PM (AEST)
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7. "RE: Staking Plans"
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   Hi,

PPFA has also got its own Staker based on increase of bets when a win is recorded. If you have the conviction of your method then this is a way to go, beware though the bets can get high if you are winning. When that happens you can rule off and start again perhaps with a larget starting bet tpo accomodate your winnings. The way its set up, it is a true profesional staker rather then one that will 'survive' losses. Although having said that I think the dafault has 120 bet buffer.

Michal


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motueka1
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19-Oct-07, 08:56 PM (AEST)
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9. "RE: Staking Plans"
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Hi justamug,
appreciate your comments there. it reinforces my belief that luck plays a big part in Money factory as to where the winners lay and and what price..

Cheers
steve


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